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What's funny about Oracle is like, most tech companies, people probably feel *skeevy* about, but also most tech cos have done 1 thing you Like. Lots of people love their Apple products. You might be annoyed at Google right now but there was probably a time they made you happy in some way. Microsoft? People do like XBoxes. OpenAI has fans!

But NOBODY interacts with Oracle on purpose. Even coders don't *pick* Oracle. There's no brake on you just *resenting* Larry Ellison.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/09/omnipresent-ai-cameras-will-ensure-good-behavior-says-larry-ellison/

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in reply to mcc

We paid so much to what the government was directly doing that we ignored corporations' work on creating a for-profit surveillance state. :/
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@Dan Herbert @mcc The header files were from the GPL-licensed OpenJDK, and Oracle sued Google because Google distributed their own Java implementation under the Apache license and copied the interface definitions. OpenJDK is several years older than Oracle's acquisition of Sun, and Android launched before the acquisition too.
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Dan Herbert

I might be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure the API Oracle sued over pre-dated them open sourcing Java. It's one of the reasons the lawsuit was so petty. By the time it had worked its way through the courts, Google had switched over to the open API so they were suing for stuff that no longer applied.

(One of the many reasons why I have strong negative opinions about Oracle)

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mcc
@airtower "our source is open but our header files? Those are supercopyright"
in reply to mcc

In the future people will be able to make undetectable AI hunter-killer drones from consumer hardware that can find assholes like Plastic Larry and melt them with its flamethrower.
in reply to Cybarbie

Honestly can't say why ORCL has such a valuation, up again 6%. It can't just be their inferior database products and nobody runs Virtualbox except for free. Have they managed to monetize their (shithouse by todays standards) programming language java?