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Continuing from here

So now I have an 1:1 transformer balun based on these instructions (using 20 gauge thermostat wire and an FT-140-43 ferrite toroid) at the feed point of the antenna, and while I'm getting less noise when receiving than before, the SWR plot still looks pretty bad. :(

Some ideas going forward:

  • Since the bad SWR might simply be "uneven" (multipath) reflections from the stucco walls of my balcony, I'm thinking it might help to have a Yagi-Uda style reflector on the balcony side of the dipole, as shown in the attached diagram.
  • Just fucking build the J-pole and save the dipole for later. :(

What do folks think?

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Thanks! I made the antenna easy to change the length of for a reason. :3

Here's the 50-60 MHz graph from the original post, by the way.


in reply to Neil E. Hodges

@zl2tod looks nice. What does the dipole & balun looknlike on the vna from 50-54MHz?
in reply to Comrade Weez

SWR has a local minimum at 49 MHz, but it's still 14. :(

Wondering about that tuned reflector idea in my original post.

in reply to Neil E. Hodges

Shortening the elements until the antenna resonates at the frequency of interest will also reduce the huge loading from the walls at either end.

I'd avoid looping the ends back on the selves or tying knots in them, but I think that's not the biggest problem.

You'll likely have more luck with higher bands where there will be less proximity effect.

With radical experimentation you may find a way to resonate the balcony space.

It's a very difficult location.

@weezmgk

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in reply to Neil E. Hodges

I read, that you target the 6m band. So you have maybe an issue with the magnetic material. Or too much parasitic capacitance? (just guessing)
What happens if you connect a 50 Ohm resistor to the BalUn instead of the antenna?
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in reply to DD8SF

That's a great idea. Do you have any recommendations for quick-release antenna legs? At the moment, the dipole legs are permanently attached to the antenna (they're continuous with the wire that connects to the transformer). I asked a while back about using some form of solderless connector (spade, bullet, screw, etc.), but those aren't great at RF.
in reply to Neil E. Hodges

I use often screws or banana connectors even on 2m antennas and had not that much problems with it.

I read some more of the older thread and saw that there are maybe more general problems with your setup because of the walls etc. : What happens if you fold the ends of the dipols down, so that they are not so near to the wall?

If nothing like that works because of the disadvantageous environment. You may have to try other antenna concepts like magnetic loop antennas.

in reply to DD8SF

Thanks. I'll go with screw connectors. :3

What happens if you fold the ends of the dipols down, so that they are not so near to the wall?


Are you talking about something like this? Looks pretty straightforward, so I'll see what I can do with it. 👍

in reply to Neil E. Hodges

Caught a really strong Morse code FM signal in the 2m band, but accidentally lost the frequency. :'(
in reply to Neil E. Hodges

Well, I got a local minimum at 50.3 MHz, but the SWR is horrid. :(

I started by shortening the antenna by folding it as shown in the photo, but it was very slowly moving the local SWR minimum up. Once I started actually cutting the down-turned ends, it started moving said local minimum up more quickly to this point. Not sure what the safest thing to do here is now to get it to a "normal" (straight dipole), though. :/

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