As age-verification bullshit becomes more common, I am determined to simply not participate in any service or video game that requires it. The day I see the prompt, is the day I leave.
Maybe the government’s hope is that I stop participating in society, but I assure you that I will not. I’ll find or build alternatives, and refuse to comply with bad law.
I hope you will, too.
And as a silver lining, maybe the weird internet we end up creating as a result will suck less than the current one.
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in reply to EVHaste • • •It may be inadvisable to put this in writing, but I’m serious about this: if I am ever required to put up an age-gate, I intend to defy that law.
You’re going to have to break into my house and physically remove the server, when it comes down to it.
And it’s not that I doubt they can. I don’t have the same kind of resources that the state does. It’s more that I intend to make them do so publicly, in the sunlight.
I solemnly swear to be the biggest pain in the ass for fascists possible.
EVHaste
in reply to EVHaste • • •At this point, I believe there’s more value in being loud and public about resistance.
The legal system already does not function, specifically for me. I have no reason to believe that the Constitution will protect me, or that plausible deniability will keep me out of jail. At this point, if the fash wants to put me there, they will reverse engineer a reason to do so, or even do so illegally.
But if others see me making noise, they might decide to push back, too. Corporations certainly aren’t!
EVHaste
in reply to EVHaste • • •All I know is that the internet is absolutely the most important thing humanity has ever created, and is maybe the only tool that we have today which is capable of equalizing the insane wealth, information, and power inequalities in my country.
Our ability to communicate freely, to exchange ideas, and to organize terrifies all of the right people. Good. It should.
I will not participate in destroying my own home— and yes, I do consider the Internet my home. I’m corny like that.
EVHaste
in reply to EVHaste • • •I understand that my own corner of the internet is not particularly important, but I only have to be one brick in the wall.
And I can even become a *couple* of bricks by extending those principles to the other sites and tools that I use, and refusing to participate in ones that cave to pressure to erode our civil rights.
No one will notice that I’m not using Floop or Glorm or whatever. It’s true that I won’t cause the owners to change their behavior. But neither will I help them build power.
EVHaste
in reply to EVHaste • • •So yeah, bottom line: I will not tolerate this identity verification bullshit on any platform.
I will not allow my absence from said platforms to dictate my ability to participate in public life.
And I will build spaces that respect and empower my neighbors.
It’s going to be inconvenient, but it’s also punk as hell, and the right thing to do.
Finally, to the authoritarian pricks trying to destroy my home, online and off; fuck you, I hope you choke.
Violet Madder
in reply to EVHaste • • •I'm from the Internet, too.
I see them trying to enclose the digital commons, which will have as devastating effect on humanity as enclosing the land did.
The future is being stolen from us, and we have to stop them.
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in reply to Violet Madder • • •@violetmadder well, I’m happy to be in community with you then.
Let’s do our best.
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su_liam
in reply to Violet Madder • • •legal process in England of consolidating (enclosing) small landholdings into larger farms
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in reply to EVHaste • • •derptron
in reply to EVHaste • • •Yeah, I really want to do this. I want to help work on something that developers and administrators could turn into a small business helping people maintain--sort of like a small plumbing business.
A grass roots hing with an agreed set of patterns or something so that we can all train each others' users and they can easily interoperate with each other.
I'd want to be defense oriented. We're all under attack trying to defend ourselves and each other.
I'm lost in it though. Too big.
EVHaste
in reply to derptron • • •@crazyeddie it does feel really big. I’d say just pick one small thing that you really care about, and know how it works. Focus on that and trust that the next thing will be someone else’s project.
You only have to be one brick in the wall!
crabby
in reply to EVHaste • • •I just love every word of this.
Never comply.
Never give up.
Never give an inch until they stick a gun in my face.
@Haste
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in reply to su_liam • • •Cy
in reply to EVHaste • • •Admittedly the absolutely insane wealth, information and power inequalities in the world only skyrocketed once the Internet was created. But is it correlation, causation or coincidence? The Internet enabled Google, Amazon, Facebook, but really those guys were using the same techniques that worked to screw up brick and mortar business in the 1800's. We just had laws to prevent it, and for some reason people started lying that didn't apply when you couldn't walk into the store. And got away with it, every time. Plus wealth monstrosities created by SpaceX, and indeed "brick and mortar" superstores weren't aided by the Internet. And the vast majority of rich fucks these days come from two scams: rental properties (especially hotels) and private equity. Internet doesn't help either of those schemes.
(I'd add speculation to the schemes, but that money doesn't exist; people are just lying that it does.)
So I'd say the Internet is... probably... a good thing. But its timing is terrible, coinciding with the constant, total failure of anyone opposing rich fucks and the unstoppable enslavement of every man, woman and child while the planet burns. Sometimes I just wish I could talk to my neighbors, and do something to protect ourselves against this global wave of tyranny.
EVHaste
in reply to Cy • • •@cy yeah, it’s true that as useful as I find it, the rich people have access to it, too. And they have the money to take it over, and control how I use it.
I confess that I’m not sure how to keep that pattern repeating yet.
Cy
in reply to EVHaste • • •Stop people from using money. That's about the only thing that can do it. No paying rent, no paying back debts, no paying taxes, no paying for stuff at the store, no paying for land, it's all part of the scam.
I don't have much hope we'll ever achieve this... but the solution is pretty obvious.
EVHaste
in reply to Cy • • •Nazo
in reply to EVHaste • • •I'm 100% with you on considering the Internet to be my "home" so to speak. What corporations have done to it in this Age of Enshittification was already bad enough, but to take away people's basic anonymity, privacy, and safety with laws themselves so we can't even legally fight back against the things destroying us is just... I don't have words...
I mean, what's next? A law that everyone must put their bank account numbers as plain text in their usernames everywhere?
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in reply to Neil E. Hodges • • •@tk it’s funny you mention that, I was recently taught how to build a radio to join a mesh network, and will be contributing as soon as I can source the parts.
Hopefully I don’t electrocute myself, I’m not exactly an engineer. lol
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in reply to EVHaste • • •exactly.
I also close my account the second a company uses AI as their customer service.
EVHaste
in reply to Kim Possible :kimoji_fire: • • •@kimlockhartga yeah, get that shit out of here.
Latest run in with it is Overtone. Really liked it but it if I can’t get a human I’m not using it again.
LAUREN
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in reply to EVHaste • • •This is my plan as well.
I used to be one of those techy people that liked trying new platforms and so created a bunch of accounts (of which are all closed now). But took a page from partner. They would move on from any site that required an account, just wasn't worth it for them.
EVHaste
in reply to Ox1de • • •@Ox1de I got annoyed just yesterday cause labcorp tried to make you make an account to pay your bill now, depending on which button you click.
I’m like, no, if you want your money you’ll give me the old flow and we’ll part ways, thank you.
Seth "Twylo" Morabito
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in reply to EVHaste • • •Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
in reply to EVHaste • • •i haven't been on #bluesky in awhile
i just won't do it
i could use a fake date
but i just resent it
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in reply to Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩 • • •When you have absolutely no choice but to enter a date, enter July 4th, 1776. Everyone!
EVHaste
in reply to Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩 • • •@benroyce wow I hate so many things about the way they’ve phrased that.
1. Age appropriate according to whom? What are you, my mom?
2. Just give us this data real quick, it’ll be so easy. Don’t think about it too much, definitely do it without thinking please. Also we’re holding your account hostage
3. It’s private, trust us.™️
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Carolyn
in reply to EVHaste • • •“trust us.”
Ugh.
I’ve deleted apps before this started, then re-downloaded later to be met with the age thing. I just deleted them again. It’s particularly annoying for apps I’ve paid for, as that wasn’t a thing when I purchased, but screw off for any personal info.
EVHaste
in reply to Carolyn • • •@CStamp @benroyce Updates to things I paid for and previously used are a whole ‘nother furious soapbox for me.
Younger Val was naive and excited about the concept of getting automatic software updates. Tsk tsk. If only she’d known.
Hermey G
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EVHaste
in reply to Hermey G • • •@Bobblegagger @benroyce Hm. On the bright side, those do seem mostly like services that would know it directly from you as opposed to having bought it from someone.
I’d still prefer not getting the email, but it’s something.
Hermey G
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Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
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oh you silly!
*trust us*
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EVHaste
in reply to Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩 • • •@benroyce @Bobblegagger only as far as I can throw them
(I’m not particularly strong)
Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
in reply to EVHaste • • •@Bobblegagger
EVHaste is quantifying their arm strength: write that down! put it on their data broker profile! 🤭
EVHaste
in reply to Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩 • • •@benroyce @Bobblegagger nooooo two more bits for fingerprinting, what have I done
(A friend taught me that phrase this morning)
Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
in reply to EVHaste • • •i am sure the data scrapers have come for mastodon
AI training, etc
but it's nice to know there's no backdoor connection to our real lives
and i've seen lively discussions on here about how to trap web spiders that ignore robots.txt
Hermey G
in reply to Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩 • • •I can't express how much I miss not needing to be plugged in.
@Haste
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in reply to Hermey G • • •@Bobblegagger
i get those emails too
....on my fake birthday i've been entering into sites when i have to since forever
Hermey G
in reply to Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩 • • •A new hack for me to explore. I have always wanted to be born in a leap year, hmmmm🤔😅
@Haste
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in reply to EVHaste • • •The greatest rebellion against service is quitting and spreading the clear reason of quitting, so more people could too.
Extreme truth nuke here
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in reply to WombatDhampir • • •Tilda Moose, citizen
in reply to EVHaste • • •Also a flag that it's time to get back to more community and land based work for those who can.
Athena Montreux
in reply to EVHaste • • •EVHaste
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in reply to EVHaste • • •Wait, we can create a new internet?
You should have said it earlier!
grrl_aex
in reply to EVHaste • • •Informational resource on why age/ID-gating is such a horrible and damaging idea for *everyone* (except surveillance fascists ofc):
https://www.eff.org/issues/age-verification
Age Verification and Age Gating: Resource Hub
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in reply to eighteyes • • •@eighteyes anything is possible as long as you remember: FCKGW-RHQQ2-YXRKT-8TG6W-2B7Q8 :)
(Not literally but you know, in spirit.)
They can make whatever they want illegal, but it’s too late to remove old hardware and software from the market. If I have to drive to Re-PC and install some 20 year old abomination I’m going to do it.
eighteyes
in reply to EVHaste • • •EVHaste
in reply to eighteyes • • •@eighteyes haha, I AM currently investigating what flavor of Linux I plan on moving to once I retire this machine, which I’ve decided is my last windows machine in my lifetime.
I just don’t say that on Fedi because then my inbox will be full of people evangelizing their favorite and I prefer that in managed, intentionally solicited dosages. lol.
johnny anhedonic
in reply to EVHaste • • •you get a made up name, and i’ll put a number in the drop-down menu and call that a birthday if it makes you feel better. but if you want any more from me, and i am off.
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in reply to EVHaste • • •Kevin Karhan :verified:
in reply to EVHaste • • •+9001%
In fact I'll rather teach kids how to use @torproject / #Tor and avoid #cyberfascism because being able to communicate freely amd hidden has saved countless of those from succumbing to the hostility and abuse they faced at "home"…