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Doing research on trucks absolutely brings out the exact reason American trucks are nightmare tanks. The idea of the insecure man who thinks a small truck is for weak little queers in skinny jeans and inferior women who go to Ikea with them is not a straw man. This truck owner very much exists, in abundance.

Of course they make excuses for their trucks made before about 2004, those are CLASSICS you see, so it's fine that they're small and can't haul as much. Also hauling capacity is king despite the fact most of these men don't actually haul anything. Most of them are carrying stuff that my Scion xB could have carried if I could leave the hatchback open.

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in reply to lori

And the thing is I am the 5'2" queer homo woman who wants to take the truck to ikea and carry large things home with the smallest truck I can get, because I am not hauling cattle or going around off-road nor are most of these guys, and I just want something that can carry large or long objects while still being possible to park and being low enough to the ground that I can get into it without needing a step stool and can see children sitting in front of it.

So like if these trucks are for pansies and women [derogatory] then yeah these are perfect give them to me. Stop making all the trucks not be this you have plenty of trucks already.

in reply to lori

what you're after is something like the ford bantam or the nissan np200
in reply to cuan_knaggs

@mensrea oh there's TONS of trucks that meet my specifications out there in the world...but not in the US
in reply to lori

sounds like an import business opportunity
in reply to cuan_knaggs

@mensrea lots of people do import small trucks but there's a lot of red tape and regulations involved, and then most of the time you're having to get ones so old (because that's when the regulations get a lot easier) that you could just as easily buy an american market model of something else the same age
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lori
@ahermitforhire I do not feel as strongly about this now because at this point I'd gladly take either over most of the cars on the market but I was always an xB diehard over the element (and later the cube) because it had the clean box look of Japanese imports we never got and then they remodeled it to make it look more lumpy and I was so mad
in reply to lori

@ahermitforhire I actually did get several rooms worth of furniture from IKEA home in my xB back in the day but it took so much fucking logistical planning, I would love a tiny truck where if the box is too long it'll just still fit anyway.

They actually did make an xB truck in Japan and I'd kill for exactly this except with the back seat removed for more bed. Which people have done conversions of and if I was that knowledgeable about cars to be able to maintain something that custom I'd do in a heartbeat (yellow is official blue is a conversion). The conversion is basically my dream truck.

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lori
@Jetengineweasel haha well a lot of this post is based on the things they believe not the things that are real
in reply to lori

@Jetengineweasel there probably is some infighting between the people driving smaller gen 1 Tacomas and the people driving bigger newer ones who think the old ones are wimpy
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lori
@ahermitforhire at that point just cover it with spikes
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lori
@thegibson @Jetengineweasel @ahermitforhire I regret selling my xB but at this point in my life I probably would have been replacing it with a truck anyway. Just a shame that the trucks in the size I'm looking at buying are basically as old as that xB.
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in reply to Neil E. Hodges

@tk listen i 100% had a few separate moments where i was like "what if i got one of those little isuzu work trucks and called it a day"

but even if i found one in my budget that wasn't driven to death, long term maintenance ends up being a lot trickier than just buying an old tacoma or something

in reply to lori

Yep.. And the used truck market is obscene. What happened to the ranger/Toyota pickup size? They were great!
in reply to Paul Gatling

@paulgatling the Tacoma basically got resized to the size of the Tundra and now the Tundra is basically a tank
in reply to Paul Gatling

Closest thing to the old Ranger is the Maverick, but it's unibody. >:(