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There are a lot of reasons for the downfall of the #USA but a big one is the purchase of traditional #media by plutocrat goons

Look at this fucking shit:

EDIT: some people are angry that i am potentially misleading because this isn't a recent headline. i am trying to make a point about the decay of traditional media and our current state of things. but yes, this is is from 2014, after #bezos bought WaPo. my point still stands, and you should follow my account for commentary, not breaking news

#usa #Media #bezos
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Keith
Keith
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I know that's supposed to be a dove or something...but all I can see is twitter.
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Riley S. Faelan
Riley S. Faelan
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@invadersil But wouldn't it be perfectly in line with the Madman Theory for the proprietor of Pravda Socia tol resolve a falling-out with Darth Melon and with the ghosts of ajatollahs past alike by offering Xitter to Iran as a war reparation?

@benroyce

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let Alephwyr=dragon{realist:true,moral:true, strong=true,body=โ™€}
let Alephwyr=dragon{realist:true,moral:true, strong=true,body=โ™€}
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Who is us? Are all fears fungible? Is all wealth fungible? Given that everyone has gotten richer over time anyway, how do you disambiguate? If I accrue resources I don't want and can't use, is that becoming wealthy? If that wealth is consistent in the aggregate but precarious for any one person over the continuous period of time they are building it, such that a different 0.5% of the population periodically lose literally everything, and 5% of them languish until they die out of each batch, is the aggregate wealth concealing anything? I would feel better if that kind of poverty didn't correspond to disappearing. Disappearances are obfuscations. Obfuscations are always capitalized on. Epstein Island was a lot of complexity and coordination to make the world into hell for a few hundred people. What other things like that exist? "Almost everyone has consistent, instantly revocable access to a minimum basket of good under capitalism" gives me anxiety even if line go up
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andrew773
andrew773
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Published twelve years ago so hopefully they don't publish the same shit with a slightly different tone. This paper is still bullshit owned by Bezos too.
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๐Ÿ” Matthias Wiesmann
๐Ÿ” Matthias Wiesmann
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if only there was a country that avoided wars for many years, we could then check if itโ€™s much poorer as the surrounding ones.
I suppose a small neutral one in Europe that was poor in the 19th century could do the trick. Sadly that does not exist.
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Nazo
Nazo
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No one wants to click. I don't blame any of you. Here is an archive.ph link: https://archive.ph/Uiu60

Apparently it was written by Ian Morris who claimed to be a professor at Stanford back in 2014. Also, apparently Obama is an illegal president. Or so it says.

Democracy dies in darkness alright โ€” and they were at the forefront of trying to spread that darkness even back then.

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Trezzer (aka Helvedeshunden)
Trezzer (aka Helvedeshunden)
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Why cut out the yellow warning saying it is over 14 years old? It would still be relevant โ€” but more honest.
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Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
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@trezzer

there's a lot of people angry about this is the comments. i'm thinking of editing it, but at the same time i'm somewhat unimpressed with the idea that i'm misleading anyone. it's a real headline

@Trezzer (aka Helvedeshunden)
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Trezzer (aka Helvedeshunden)
Trezzer (aka Helvedeshunden)
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That's true, and the paper is problematic, for sure. Considering the current time and context, though, it is easy to assume it was written at this point in time which would put it in a slightly different light. Not a better one, but a different one.
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SearingTruth
SearingTruth
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"I'm still amazed at how quickly Trump and Putin transformed the once proud and noble Party of Lincoln into just another simple rabble of seditious and treasonous playground bullies.

I'm not kidding, it really is startling and amazing. I mean my goodness, it only took two or three years."
SearingTruth

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WorldTravelerAll7
WorldTravelerAll7
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oh, ffs, that is so nakedly grotesque๐Ÿ˜’ Bozos should have capitalized "Us" there. It would have been more honest
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kingmoth
kingmoth
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The title should have been โ€œIn the long run, war make them safer and richer, and us poorer and deadโ€
And by them I meant peoples who stirred this s***t up for there own benefits.
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Petra van Cronenburg
Petra van Cronenburg
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Please say that it's 14 years old! When did Bezos buy the WP? (Rhetorical question)
Until now I trusted your posts. But using content in such wild combinations, sorry ...
Edit: more than 11 years.
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Tag Your Toe
Tag Your Toe
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@NatureMC "When did Bezos buy the WP?"

In 2013, you morons.

@Petra van Cronenburg
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Petra van Cronenburg
Petra van Cronenburg
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@TagYourToe the moron knows it well. I criticise a post pretending it's a fresh screenshot. Ben could have given the facts/source that the pic is very old. @benroyce
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Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
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@NatureMC @TagYourToe

yes, it's not recent

i'm thinking of editing my post to indicate that

but i don't think it's that big of a deal

the point i make is true. it is also true the headline isn't current. i don't know. i'm not disturbed by what you're saying, nor that there is an indication it's recent, nor that i'm misleading anyone

@Petra van Cronenburg @Tag Your Toe
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Paul Schoe
Paul Schoe
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@NatureMC

You are very right, this post is from April 25, 2014, More than 11 years ago.

I hope that it is an oversight from Ben Royce, but otherwise it is very disappointing.

@benroyce

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Armin Hanisch
Armin Hanisch
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@paulschoe @NatureMC By browsing thru the comments I am not astonished by the fact how few acutally looked up the article (at least the date) or read it (or beware, at least read an abstract of the book by Ian Morris if not the book itself). This just shows that (and Ben should have known this as he left out the date) how easy it is also in the โ€žfriendly fediverseโ€œ to misguide people and how lazy and unread most of them are.
@Petra van Cronenburg @Paul Schoe
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Paul Schoe
Paul Schoe
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To my regret, but, as you demonstrate, the picture seems to be manipulated by removing the date,, from now on I will be more cautious when I see posts from Ben.

@Linkshaender @NatureMC @benroyce

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Petra van Cronenburg
Petra van Cronenburg
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@paulschoe I don't think that it's openly manipulated. Depending on the device, the date can be under the picture. Then it would be wrongly cut. ๐Ÿ˜‰ @Linkshaender @benroyce
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Armin Hanisch
Armin Hanisch
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@paulschoe @NatureMC Nope, I have to object Petra. Just did a test on four different devices. Every time the date is clearly visible between the title and the illustration. No way you can accidentally skip that. For me personally, alas, thatโ€˜s a hard blow to Bens credibility.
@Petra van Cronenburg @Paul Schoe
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Petra van Cronenburg
Petra van Cronenburg
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@Linkshaender oh ... thanks. @paulschoe @benroyce
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Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
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is it really that big of a deal?

the point i am making is true. that it isn't recent doesn't change that. but i suppose there is an expectation that my account is a breaking news account?

Armin, Paul: if you want to unfollow me, that's fine. i believe you're holding me to expectations which are unfair on flimsy grounds

that someone makes a point with their account, if it is true or not. not that they are paid reporters. obviously i am not

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int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...)
int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...)
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@NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe
yes it is that big of a deal
@Armin Hanisch @Petra van Cronenburg @Paul Schoe
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Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
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then unfollow me

and fuck off

is anything untrue?

no

everyone's always getting so fucking upset about the wrong things. i just don't fucking care anymore. it's always so overwrought and dramatic on the fucking fediverse. we're going to hell in a handbasket, and that seems to me to be the bigger problem

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Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
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all 4 of you:

i edited my comment on the basis of your complaints

but i would really like it if all 4 of you unfollowed me

because fuck you

endless nitpicking on the fediverse is driving me fucking bonkers

i'm not a fucking news outlet. i am making commentary. this is a real article. my comment is valid

i am not working for you in the news room, to be criticized on the basis of breaking news journalistic integrity

it's a fucking joke

๐Ÿ–•๐Ÿ–•๐Ÿ–•

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Petra van Cronenburg
Petra van Cronenburg
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It's a pity, I thought we could have a rational discussion. However, I shall comply. Perhaps you should also stop following me to be consequent? ๐Ÿ˜‰ (This is now truly kindergarden level, a real pity.)

And now we are writing 100 times "fuck" in every combination we can find. ๐Ÿค“ ๐Ÿคก

@nrmacdonald @Linkshaender @paulschoe

@Armin Hanisch @int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...) @Paul Schoe
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Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
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already unfollowed

all 4 of you

need to get the nattering nitpicking off my fucking back

i don't owe you shit

you have high standards, you follow those in who you follow

someone disappoints you?

fine, unfollow

don't fucking lecture me like i fucking owe you something, on the basis of overwrought nitpicky bullshit

the article is real. my commentary is valid

apparently not good enough

because you pay me?

FUCK YOU

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Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
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@nrmacdonald

apparently i was

pick pick pick pick

i'm so glad nattering nitpickers know what is really important in life

you're a big help to the world. of such great service. i don't know how we could go on with out you

@int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...)
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Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
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grow the fuck up?

ok

i won't pick pick pick pick at people on some lame personal need, like they owe me, on the basis of a "grave concern" which isn't shit

i will indeed grow up like that

thanks for your wise advice

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int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...)
int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...)
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Look, if you're going to get this bent about a small and very valid criticism about a single post in which anyone taking it at face value would assume that the content was contemporaneous when in fact it was over a decade old perhaps you should have a think about it all.
You're not a news service true but neither should you be misleading.
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Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
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unread

uninterested

you and i are done

bye asshole

the endless nitpicking is driving me INSANE

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Petra van Cronenburg
Petra van Cronenburg
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No, I don't have this expectation at all.
I'm just a follower who appreciates your posts, thoughts, and opinions very much - you are one of the most inspiring accounts here. I appreciate you debates with facts and respect.

Exactly *therefore* I want to trust your posts. The problem is social media: more and more posts on Mastodon come without sources or arbitrarily glued together for effect only. So I want to get the facts, be sure that what I could boost

@Linkshaender @paulschoe

@Armin Hanisch @Paul Schoe
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Paul Schoe
Paul Schoe
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Hello Ben

I agree with Petra:

'I'm just a follower who appreciates your posts, thoughts, and opinions very much - you are one of the most inspiring accounts here. I appreciate you debates with facts and respect.'

The picture looked manipulated. That was a shock because I take your posts for gospel.

If you had not built a good reputation, I would not have reacted, but since it was you, and assuming that the picture was modified, I was more than surprised.

@NatureMC @benroyce @Linkshaender

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Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
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i edited my top comment as you desired

i forced you to unfollow, i unfollowed you

FUCK OFF WITH THE ENDLESS FUCKING NITPICKING

IT JUST DRIVES PEOPLE AWAY

you're driving me insane

FUCK YOU

i will from now on sever all connections with overcontrolling nitpicky busybody accounts

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@NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe

i don't care

endless endless endless endless nitpicking on the fediverse is beginning to really piss me off

@Armin Hanisch @Petra van Cronenburg @Paul Schoe
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Rejin
Rejin
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Fwiw I think your original point is valid with or without the date. If the professional factcheckers of the fediverse object to your edit, they should just unfollow and move on with their lives. The nitpicky arguments on here about the correct way to post are tiresome.
@NatureMC
@Petra van Cronenburg
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@rejinl @NatureMC

thank you

it's just reached a boiling point for me, apologies for my temper

i might have been too hard on these 4 but i CANNOT STAND this endless nitpicking on the fediverse. i just can't deal with it anymore, i'm just going to start severing connections

they apparently believe they are helping?

they just drive everyone insane

@Petra van Cronenburg @Rejin
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remember laffy?

it's these sort of assholes that drove them away

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Rejin
Rejin
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She actually blocked me! I thought I was agreeing with her, but maybe my tone was wrong ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฝโ€โ™€
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@rejinl

that's the anger

i do need to tone it down, i don't want to go off the deep end like that

i just blew my top

what's the acceptable amount of blowing one's top? once a month? 10 times a day? ๐Ÿ˜†

@Rejin
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Lee from Colorado
Lee from Colorado
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@rejinl (she blocked me too. Similar experience of failing to meet her expectations of how to agree with her.
It's ok -- my timeline is plenty informative and more peaceful without that...)
@Rejin
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@colo_lee @rejinl

i liked laffy. but i also didn't comment much on their posts either, otherwise maybe i would have fallen afoul of the banhammer as well

that's why i'm talking about toning down my anger

i think what happens is valid things annoy you... then it builds and then every little fucking thing annoys you, things that aren't a problem, then boom

i don't want to do that

social media is good and bad in many ways. you have to control how you interact with it, or it controls you

@Rejin @Lee from Colorado
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@paulschoe @Linkshaender @NatureMC

right. because i'm not a paid reporter. nothing i said was untrue. i was making a point. you're acting like you bought a newspaper and found out the reporter lied. it's a little overdramatic on your part don't you think?

@Armin Hanisch @Petra van Cronenburg @Paul Schoe
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Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฉ
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@NatureMC @Linkshaender @paulschoe

and why did you ever not do that, if it's so important to you

i feel like i am being roped into a newsroom, as if i am paid reporter. none of which i am

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Skjeggtroll
Skjeggtroll
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I can't get over that someone consciously decided to include "and richer" in that headline. Wasn't it bad enough before?
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Kassander
Kassander
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Sounds like double-speak.

"WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH"
Welcome to George Orwell's dystopia โ€œ1984.โ€

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Silver Arrows
Silver Arrows
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I have a colleague who insisted that war is necessary. Not that war is inevitable because greedy humans will rise to power and do whatever they need to get more wealth and power, but that war is necessary to maintain a balance. That you need war to keep things balanced.

Next time he says that, I'm going to ask him which members of his family should die in a war to maintain that "balance".

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Theo
Theo
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I think that unfortunately the "richer" part is true. War is a business. They invest lives, and gain money through the weapon industries.
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PhDGrisMan
PhDGrisMan
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it means the richest become richer while dodging drafts meanwhile majority of us suffer consequences even death
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morton
morton
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The United States doesn't suffer the full consequences of war: the bombing of cities, mass graves, displacement and migration, and cities razed to the ground. My family memories of the war include my grandfather's brother being killed with a shovel by a guard in a camp, and then being relocated. An American civilian watches the war on television and worries only about whether oil prices will rise. He doesn't have to worry about bombs falling on his home.

reshared this

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Riley S. Faelan
Riley S. Faelan
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Hey, he's got a point. Wars are the one reliable reason to extract and recirculate wealth hoarded by sillionaires that they're relatively powerless to lobby agains, and this recirculation of stagnant wealth can, indeed, make everybody richer.

Of course, we could be even safer and richer if we recirculated the stagnant money without having any wars.

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Huopa
Huopa
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@riley Your point is great. The problem is that how to define stagnant money? For instance, Elon Musk can be hardly called stagnant money, as he invests most of his wealth into creating other new tech companies, SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink, Boring Company, etc.. to redistribute his wealth would probably mean less new tech created, but also more equal society with a little less polarization probably. This is what EU or Europe in general has chosen mostly by taxing and social welfare.
@Riley S. Faelan
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Fou
Fou
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https://kafeneio.social/@foufoutos/113523428980674058

Fou

2024-11-21 23:00:56


War is a failure of statecraft

ฮŸ ฯ€ฯŒฮปฮตฮผฮฟฯ‚ ฮตฮฏฮฝฮฑฮน ฮฑฯ€ฮฟฯ„ฮญฮปฮตฯƒฮผฮฑ ฯ„ฮทฯ‚ ฯ€ฮฟฮปฮนฯ„ฮนฮบฮฎฯ‚ ฮฑฮฝฮนฮบฮฑฮฝฯŒฯ„ฮทฯ„ฮฑฯ‚

Why peace is always justification for violence?

Arcane


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an actual bus
an actual bus
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Sure, let's have another holocaust, think about the medical advances ๐Ÿคก

Actually, let's make it bigger for bigger advances, let's make it so big nobody survives, that should give us maximum advances

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Display Name
Display Name
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A lot of words to say "greed is good". But because he's from a privileged society that has been historically benefiting from killing others he doesn't feel the need (or even see) that it should continue with "...for the victor".
I have a 25 year dream of curating a lb art/design exhibition of weapons (and their uses/consequences), the most expensive, advanced and yes historically important designed items of human history. Through seeing them I wanted people to see how it is the source and the guardian of wealth of and in this country. The goal is to create a mirror to the middle classes that benefit from the results (the wealthy already know) and at least acknowledge the blood money.
This piece is a great example of "there is no alternative because this is what happened". Humanity only changes with the refusal of what we are. We try or die.
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CynBloggerโ„ข๏ธResists Tyranny!
CynBloggerโ„ข๏ธResists Tyranny!
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The acquisition of media sources, PLUSโ€ฆ
A corrupt & biased SCOTUS,
The Citizens United decision,
Corruption of Congress by lobbyists,
Distortion of an equitable taxation system,
Wildly non-proportional influence of the billionaire class,
Grave lack of education in our general population, voter apathy, and widespread non-involvement of every-day citizens in politics,
And the ascendancy of unethical, unprincipled, amoral legions of principals in governmentโ€ฆ
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it's worse. the headline says war, but it's about genocide:

"If only the Roman Empire could have been created without killing millions of Gauls and Greeks, if the United States could have been built without killing millions of Native Americans, if these and countless conflicts could have been resolved by discussion instead of force. But this did not happen. People almost never give up their freedoms โ€” including, at times, the right to kill and impoverish one another โ€” unless forced"

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I generally run some news video while I cook, and sometimes eat if I'm hungry enough for it not to make me sick, Reuters, PBSNewsHour, Al Jazeera (English), sometimes deeper dives. Tonight it was Reuters, They actually ran Kegsbreath's speech (right in line with this graphic). You know it's bad when there's no commentary, as if there's no response to cover, and even the fighting Irish can't think of anything to say.

There are alternatives, and they all have different personalities.

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@janisf

all one can do is read widely

and avoid certain cesspits

it's pretty bad out there

@Janis
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There was one big story, I've forgotten which :/, recently that was picked up by NPR and PBS from a Substack writer. Part of what's bad is too many journalism scholarships no longer exist because the degree just gets you a sycophant's job that pays enough to payoff the remaining $100K kids had to take in loans. No one wants to subsidize that, while grads still can't pay rent and take the risk to go truly independent, so they don't.

We need, need, need affordable housing.

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it's insane out there. an entire generation is being priced out of buying a house. not even beginning to address the rent situation
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