Skip to main content


#Signal seems to have been down for a bit today, so this is a good moment to consider if you have backup comms channels with people you care about.

A Signal Contingency Plan, if you will:
https://signal-contingency-plan.info/

I agree with the recommendation there and am working on making Delta Chat @delta that kind of backup channel for me and mine.

#Resilience

This entry was edited (1 month ago)

reshared this

in reply to Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦



I still feel like XMPP with servers located outside of the US would be a better choice than Signal. 🤷

Neil E. Hodges reshared this.

in reply to Neil E. Hodges

@tk Whatever the technology it needs a highly polished mobile app for the major OSs and that seems always to be the struggle.
in reply to Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

I use threema as well with all my important contacts. Delta is great but its buggy and almost impossible (for me to get anyone else interested). I got one person to use it for a day. 🤷
in reply to Velocipede Rider

@ruari
+1 for Threema, go check it out. Swiss based, costs a coffee, somewhat open source, highly trustworthy imho. No phone nbr required, you can even buy anonymously: https://shop.threema.ch/en/buy-anonymously (guess that's only possible for android, not for iOS)
Yes, the company has recently been sold to a German investor, but no impact seen or suspected on their business model or trustworthiness so far. Let me know if you think differently.
in reply to Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 When you say:

But show us a centralized, end-to-end encrypted Signal alternative that is not backed by venture capital, blockchain, the Saudi royal family, or all three, and we'll sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.


...I remember that XMPP is technically neither of the three - is the reason not to recommend it that end-to-end encryption is an [em]extension[/em] for XMPP (OMEMO if I recall correctly), and doesn't come enforced by default by the protocol?

Neil E. Hodges reshared this.

in reply to Carlos Solís

Pretty sure the main reason why folks aren't recommending XMPP is the lack of a robust and polished iPhone app. :/


@tk Whatever the technology it needs a highly polished mobile app for the major OSs and that seems always to be the struggle.

in reply to Neil E. Hodges

@tk @csolisr I have been trying for well over a decade to get people to move into alternatives and every single time they tell me the mobile app doesn't work for them. So it really only applies to every attempt I personally have made.

Neil E. Hodges reshared this.

in reply to Neil E. Hodges

@skotchygut They'd get that if they got rid of their anticompetitive appstore that costs a fortune to get release keys for.

Neil E. Hodges reshared this.

Unknown parent

Cassandrich
SimpleX is a known-nazi project. I'm not sufficiently familiar with Delta but I'd suggest using Cwtch or VeilidChat, which have both the strongest privacy properties and devs I'd trust.
This entry was edited (1 month ago)
Unknown parent

Cassandrich
@bane Not that there are nazis using it. That the people running the project are nazis and happy for it to be a platform catering to nazis.
@Fett
in reply to Cassandrich

> "Delta is sus too tho iirc"

where does that claims come from? most Delta Chat developers are part of or otherwise closely related to trans, queer, and antifa circles, and the CCC comunity

better not spread misinformation (hopefuly not with bad intentions?) if you don't "IIRC"

@bane @rysiek

This entry was edited (1 month ago)
in reply to Cassandrich

@dalias @bane here's context on SimpleX: https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/114630877715286899


Hey @simplex is this really your founder? 👀
https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin

#SimpleX #InfoSec


Cassandrich reshared this.

in reply to Cassandrich

@dalias @bane I am definitely looking closely at Cwtch. VeilidChat was, as far as I understand, a proof-of-concept and not recommended for any kind of serious use?