@lopta Once you have carbon wheels, there's no going back. They never go out of true and generally last much longer unless you figure out a way to shatter them. Probably never buying alloy again, unless they come with a bike.
Hookless, sometimes you buy a bike and it comes with hookless rims and then you end up having to care whether you want to or not.
My alloy HED rims never go out of true and the braking surfaces have lasted for years. You get better quality when you pay a bit more irrespective of material.
@lopta My riding style has changed over the years, no doubt alloys have improved too, but the demands I put on my equipment probably differ from most people too.
I'm discussing this elsewhere at the mo too. I don't get the 'it's carbon so must be better' obsession. I ride both and have alloy rims that ride every bit as well as my carbon and indeed better in some circumstances.
As someone who's built dozens of wheels in a past life, it's hard to argue when a rim comes out of the box completely true, then one day when you unlace it it's still true. Most alloy rims will not be. That's what I mean by never go out of true.
The ride quality of alloy almost always exceeds carbon unless you have >30mm rims, then I'm not sure I would want those in alloy anyway.
My opinions on carbon wheels is likely skewed by the fact that I ride deeper wheels
So like I said, I'm probably an edge use case, still trying to race after all these years, 8000+ miles a year. Old enough and motivated to afford some marginal gains. Doing it long enough I don't want to mess with equipment.
@crowdotblack @lopta I wouldn't want >30mm alloy rims either, but >30mm carbon can be harsh once terrain gets lumpy: Riding more than say 150km off-road km in a day on my 43mm rims can leave me feeling battered and seeking out road routes as an alternative.
@crowdotblack @lopta I wouldn't want >30mm alloy rims either, but >30mm carbon can be harsh once terrain gets lumpy: Riding more than say 150km off-road km in a day on my 43mm rims can leave me feeling battered and seeking out road routes as an alternative.
@pete @lopta Riding more than 50km off road leaves me feeling battered, but I don't think I have the best gravel setup for comfort either other than 45mm tires
@crowdotblack @lopta I hear nothing but good things about Rene Herse tyres, but can’t bring myself to risk the cash: a risk only in that I know I’m as likely to rip or pinch a £40 sidewall as I am an £85 one, and RH are never available at sale prices unlike the big brands. Maybe I’ll treat myself some day.
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Hookless, sometimes you buy a bike and it comes with hookless rims and then you end up having to care whether you want to or not.
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As someone who's built dozens of wheels in a past life, it's hard to argue when a rim comes out of the box completely true, then one day when you unlace it it's still true. Most alloy rims will not be. That's what I mean by never go out of true.
The ride quality of alloy almost always exceeds carbon unless you have >30mm rims, then I'm not sure I would want those in alloy anyway.
My opinions on carbon wheels is likely skewed by the fact that I ride deeper wheels
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So like I said, I'm probably an edge use case, still trying to race after all these years, 8000+ miles a year. Old enough and motivated to afford some marginal gains. Doing it long enough I don't want to mess with equipment.
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I have a Lauf Seigla, I think my next tires are going to be 2.2/57s
Still shopping around because it came with hookless of course :D
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