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Continuing from here

I put up a dipole this time, and while I did receive marginally more stuff than before (only in the 2m and 70cm bands), there was also a lot of noise. The length of each leg of the dipole was calculated like this, with the velocity factors estimated for the copper wire and insulation.

(299792458 / 52_000_000 * 0.95 * 0.95) / 4

I did get the copper pipe for making a sleeve balun. Would that further improve things? :3c

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Well, I tried building my own ¼-wavelength monopole with the metal railing and everything it's attached to as the ground plane, but it didn't work very well. :(

I'm targeting 6-meter with this, but I thought it'd make sense to use the middle of the band (52 MHz) as the target, so I did (C / 5200000000) / 4 to get the length of 1.44 meters.

What did I do wrong? :( #HamRadio #AmateurRadio


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in reply to Neil E. Hodges

I would only expect a modest improvement with the sleeve balun, particularly on receive.

The velocity factor only applies to the coax, you can ignore it for insulated wire. Solid inner insulator coax is almost always 0.66.

It may help to eliminate the twists and turns in the elements.

You may want to make separate antennae for 2m and 70cm.

You are line-of-sight to very very many switch mode power supplies and computers so there is going to be a lot of noise.

Is it better at night?

in reply to zl2tod

The velocity factor only applies to the coax, you can ignore it for insulated wire. Solid inner insulator coax is almost always 0.66.


Thanks. I was told by someone else on Fedi to include it for calculating the antenna length, so I guess that wasn't correct?

It may help to eliminate the twists and turns in the elements.


I think that'll be the next thing to try. Thank goodness for zip ties! :3

You may want to make separate antennae for 2m and 70cm.


Should this one be okay for 6m, once I make the other improvements? (I'm honestly surprised at how much 70cm stuff I'm receiving.)

You are line-of-sight to very very many switch mode power supplies and computers so there is going to be a lot of noise.


Don't I know it. :(

Is it better at night?


I'll get back to you once I've made the above improvements and have had time to use it at night. Thanks again for the help!

in reply to Neil E. Hodges

If you have a transmitter and an SWR meter you can compare SWR through the band to make a guess as to whether the antenna is tuned high or low. (Low SWR is good).

The cool kids use miniVNA antenna analysers these days, perhaps you can borrow one from someone at your local radio club. They come in a wide range of versions and quality.

in reply to zl2tod

I do have a transmitter and an SWR meter, but I don't have the license to transmit yet. :(
in reply to Neil E. Hodges

There's not much activity on 6m here, just every now and again it opens up to remarkable distances, especially in the height of summer.

Can you hear any local beacons? They are always a good start, then try for more the more distant.

Leave the receiver on the output of various repeaters while you are doing other things, you never know when someone will pop up.

The dipole will do best broadside.

DXers prefer horizontal, while mobile stations prefer vertical.

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in reply to zl2tod

Didn't get any of these. :(

Are there any listings you prefer?

in reply to Neil E. Hodges

Not really, I'm a bit out of touch with that. A search throws up lots of lists.

Beacons are almost all CW, so you'll need a receiver with a BFO or SSB capability to hear them, though strong ones may open the squelch on an FM receiver.

in reply to Neil E. Hodges

Just bought a bunch of SO-239 stuff for making more antennas. 👍