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I'm not saying that we should murder everyone involved with this project, that would be illegal. What I *am* saying is that #Atlanta and the world would be a much better place if someone did do that.

TL;DR we're testing a bunch of rich shit's private 'whites and "one of the good ones"'-only (we all know that's the point, don't pretend like it's not rich people going to the convention center) pod-busses instead of just building fucking public bus lanes and light rail. 😠

https://www.semafor.com/article/08/23/2024/altman-backed-startup-to-test-av-mass-transit-system-in-atlanta

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in reply to Sam Whited

The wild thing is MARTA already has trains that take you from the airport to the convention center. It's one of the more direct trips by train in the city.
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#Atlanta #Georgia #MARTA #OpenAI #Infrastructure

in reply to Sir Rochard 'Dock' Bunson

@SrRochardBunson Right? It's *right fucking there* by the trolley (or maybe they meant the one right by the airport? That would make more sense for a test since it's so close? Either way, there is a bus and a MARTA station right fucking there.)

I'm going to be stewing about this for the rest of the damn day.

in reply to Sam Whited

And it's headed by one of those "modern" billionaires, as expected. :/
in reply to Neil E. Hodges

How many times must we invent the same thing over and over again before we admit that we're in a rut as a species? :/

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in reply to Neil E. Hodges

@tk Seriously; I can't afford to actually live in the city I love anymore or get transit far enough out to take me into the city quickly from where I live, but Altman can come in and build "it's like a bus, except it's not, it's a new thing that I totally invented and you should pay me for it". I can't even begin to say how mad that makes me.
in reply to Sam Whited

Sorry but there is no chance this is even remotely true.

"Executives say its compact AVs can move people at rates comparable to rail at a fraction of the cost"

Total BS straight from the factory

in reply to Wesley Cook ⚡🚲

"Executives say" is the new bullshit sigil. :/
in reply to Wesley Cook ⚡🚲

@wesley Seriously; 10,000 an hour is what trains do. This can't even carry the same number of people as a normal fucking bus *facepalm*
in reply to Sam Whited

@wesley I tried the pod at Cumberland. The tech is not ready for prime time yet.
in reply to Binh ATL

@bdatlrides @wesley oh wow so there are some of these already deployed? I'm interested in what the issues were (are?).

I mean I'm not going to say there's never going to be a situation where autonomous pods are the solution to transportation, but as it is they are just trains but worse. They are not a solution to mass transit from the airport to downtown.

They're trying to claim they cost less than rail to build (which might be true?), but we've already built the rail so it's a moot point. And there is absolutely no way you can ever move as many people as rail with individual pods that only carry a few people at a time. Even if the vehicles can move at high speeds cause they're autonomous or whatever you're still going to be bottlenecked by people entering/exiting the vehicles a handful at a time.

Anyway, end rant lol

in reply to Wesley Cook ⚡🚲

@wesley The Cumberland Hopper is the best working prototype but runs slow and has had door failures before: https://cumberlandsweep.org/
in reply to Binh ATL

@bdatlrides @wesley I read a bunch about this before it started, but I've never seen it and I never figured out how it works. Is it in a separate lane, or does it share the bike lane? My impression was that it shared the sidewalk, but even Cobb transit officials can't be that clueless, right? (maybe don't answer that…)
in reply to Sam Whited

@wesley The Cumberland Hopper pilot runs in mixed traffic, either on the pavement or on a sidewalk path.
in reply to Sam Whited

they literally want "light rail but dumber" for a half-mile loop that close to marta rail???
in reply to The Man From B.R.E.E.T.Z.

@BreetzTootz yah, for a place right next to a fucking train station… and of course once they realize it's stupid or get their federal dollars or tax break or whatever they'll pull out and Atlanta will get stuck holding the bag, like always
in reply to Sam Whited

@BreetzTootz although, if they did pull out and Atlanta was stuck with this, at least it's just an elevated mini-road, ie. bicycle path. Maybe it would actually make sense to have a raised bike bridge thing with some cool little stations where you could put lockups from downtown to the airport. Build an off-ramp at College Park and East Point or what not, connect it to the beltline, etc.

(still though, where bike paths go shouldn't be decided by billionaires abandoned private infrastructure)

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Sam Whited
@OhNoYoureInACar @SrRochardBunson yah, I kind if figured it must be that one but the piece said "downtown". Either way, a single airport shuttle bus driving across the parking lot and back could do this pretty trivially.
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OhNoYoureInACar
@SrRochardBunson I mean the author doesn't know much about anything except glamorizing VCs. Contract implies a counterparty paying for it, so I looked at who could be stupid enough to pay for a 10 mile path into the city. And no surprise, the answer is nobody.
in reply to Sam Whited

this article is amazingly contradictory.

The pods reduce the footprint of mass transit by being narrower than a Ford f150 (not mass transit pickup).

Using standard roads doesn't work, but this will be expanded in the future to use... STANDARD ROADS.

This is just more 80s future fantasy based on elementary sci-fi book covers

in reply to mark

@ATLeagle yuuuup, it's always the same with these billionaire funded things. The reality is that they just don't want to be on a bus with all the dirty poors so they need their own thing. Every fucking time.
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in reply to Sam Whited

@SrRochardBunson I'm not familiar with the convention center's operations, although I doubt one bus has adequate bandwidth. But a MARTA rail connection is the only way that the gateway arena could be filled with transit riders.
in reply to Sam Whited

It was driving me nuts that this article and a couple others I found never said *who* awarded the contract.

According to this Morningstar article, the ATL Airport Community Improvement Districts org, and their Atlanta Personal Rapid Transit Solutions are awarding the contract.

https://www.morningstar.com/news/pr-newswire/20240826sf90879/glydways-is-changing-the-transit-landscape-with-its-groundbreaking-urban-mobility-solutions

https://aacids.com/automated-transit-network

EDIT: Ah I see now @OhNoYoureInACar did find the AACID website already

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