@tk Without those 30 hypermutation 'subvariants' like BA.1 or BA.2.86 Covid would be long gone, a victim of its own success. Find out where they come from and the opportunity to end the epidemic portion of the pandemic will present itself.
I hear "since covid" a lot in contexts where I parse it as like ... "since the 21st century" or "since the rise of smartphones" (things which are understood to still be going on), but I've been working on the habit of saying "since lockdown" to get the brevity without the ambiguity.
at my previous job one of my coworkers asked me when I was going to stop masking and I said "when we have vaccines that actually block transmission" and he looked at me like I was some sort of space alien
It is endemic. It is never going away. Stop pretending that it could or will.
> and they certainly didn't see the damage to the immune system that covid does coming
Throw the same amount of COVID research money at e.g., seasonal influenza and you'll see the same thing in people that recovered from it, guaranteed.
The only thing particularly special about COVID is we threw so much money researching it and amassed so much data nobody has ever collected before and we're trying to make sense of it. Some of it seems really scary but most of it is just our first ever observation of how our body deals with battling a novel virus and its aftermath.
Also I just realized this is Jeff Cliff (new avatar??) so I know nothing anyone ever says will convince you of anything because you have developed a dangerous phobia to being human.
but COVID does not do this to every person. If the seasonal flu strains had the same R0 we'd have enough patients to study and see, assuming we cared enough to do these scans on people
life is change, after all. Many people are drawing short straws in life all the time just like some people are winning lotteries. I was pretty thankful for COVID-19 for my own personal situation. After 🐝beeing a NEET for a long time I decided to get a minimum wage job in January 2020, which I lost within 2 months due to COVID. Between not having to pay rent for 2 years and getting fat unemployment checks, I made out like a bandit. All that money was wisely reinvested to positive ends.
I have one family member and a few people in my IRL social network who suffer from long COVID. Sucks for them, but it is what it is. It's pretty clear TPTB are ready to "move on" from COVID.
I was hoping the lasting changes from the pandemic would be (A) sick people would wear masks in public, (B) sick people would stay home from work/parties, two things that would especially benefit me as an immuno-compromised individual, but alas it is not so in my city. Any time I go to a larger function I am pretty much guaranteed to get sick because idiots with colds/flus/covid don't want to wear masks or stay home, which as a type 1 diabetic sucks -- high blood sugars for weeks -- and sucks more for my wife, as an epileptic, who can't take cold medicine without the risk of getting seizures.
I've had COVID at least 3 times, once before the vaccine, the other two times after. Not sure whether it was due to my natural antibodies or the shots but only the first time was truly awful. No lingering effects AFAIK.
I still think it's the right thing™️ for me to wear masks indoors if I'm coughing or sneezing, and I still do it -- and lingering effects of the COVID-19 phenomenon still make it socially acceptable for me to wear a mask in the grocery store or bank when I'm sick, which I'm thankful for.
My grandfather once healed a guy with tuberculosis with exercise. IIRC he was from East Germany and came to Soviet Russia to die in some kind of weird story. My grandfather was the coach of the national T&F team, and an author of books about exercise. He looked and deemed that the guy didn't go too far yet, could be salvaged with appropriate training that included breathing. Actual tuberculosis, with the spit collector bottle.
Yeah I hope people will be more respectful and avoid spreading whatever illness they have when they realize they're symptomatic and I hope people get proper time off of work when they're sick. We've always needed those changes in America. I'm seeing progress there but it's still nowhere near ideal
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Unknown parent • • •well it's a good thing I never mentioned SARS1/2 and MERS because I wasn't talking about them
We knew COVID was going to be endemic as soon as it started spreading as widely as it did. This is not misinformation. We knew about this back in 2020
Here's one of the earliest papers on it where they modeled its likelihood of being endemic
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abe5960
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Unknown parent • • •It is endemic. It is never going away. Stop pretending that it could or will.
> and they certainly didn't see the damage to the immune system that covid does coming
Throw the same amount of COVID research money at e.g., seasonal influenza and you'll see the same thing in people that recovered from it, guaranteed.
The only thing particularly special about COVID is we threw so much money researching it and amassed so much data nobody has ever collected before and we're trying to make sense of it. Some of it seems really scary but most of it is just our first ever observation of how our body deals with battling a novel virus and its aftermath.
Also I just realized this is Jeff Cliff (new avatar??) so I know nothing anyone ever says will convince you of anything because you have developed a dangerous phobia to being human.
Good luck Jeff I hope you make it through
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I have one family member and a few people in my IRL social network who suffer from long COVID. Sucks for them, but it is what it is. It's pretty clear TPTB are ready to "move on" from COVID.
I was hoping the lasting changes from the pandemic would be (A) sick people would wear masks in public, (B) sick people would stay home from work/parties, two things that would especially benefit me as an immuno-compromised individual, but alas it is not so in my city. Any time I go to a larger function I am pretty much guaranteed to get sick because idiots with colds/flus/covid don't want to wear masks or stay home, which as a type 1 diabetic sucks -- high blood sugars for weeks -- and sucks more for my wife, as an epileptic, who can't take cold medicine without the risk of getting seizures.
I've had COVID at least 3 times, once before the vaccine, the other two times after. Not sure whether it was due to my natural antibodies or the shots but only the first time was truly awful. No lingering effects AFAIK.
I still think it's the right thing™️ for me to wear masks indoors if I'm coughing or sneezing, and I still do it -- and lingering effects of the COVID-19 phenomenon still make it socially acceptable for me to wear a mask in the grocery store or bank when I'm sick, which I'm thankful for.
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